Boys will be…good people?

The whole boys will be campaign is missing one key slogan: boys will be…good people. If you don’t know what I’m talking about then just follow the link here and just watch the site for a minute or so.

So the question is does UCC make us better people? Or does it just tell us how to succeed in the real world? It’s important to note that these two aren’t necessarily equivalent. A good person may not necessarily be a successful person, and a successful person may not necessarily be a good person. And an unsuccessful person may not necessarily be a good person either XD. A while ago, my violin teacher asked me: what does your school do to make you a better person? I found that I couldn’t give him an answer. Does UCC really do anything to make us better people? Or does it just teach us, as is one popular belief, how to beat the system and reach success? I think the lack of school spirit is a sign that UCC isn’t doing a good job. There are many people, myself included, who go to school just for the sake of going to school. They aren’t involved in any extracurricular, school-linked activities like sports teams and clubs. Another sign of this is the lack of commitment. People do things just to fulfill their CAS hours – they don’t actually have an interest in the thing that they’re doing, and that’s somewhat disturbing. Take the anime club for example. The people are all there just for hours. Same with the science club. Heck, pretty much every single member would have skipped the anime club meeting if Brawl had been open (half of them did anyways). The majority of people don’t do Horizons because they want to help less fortunate kids with their homework…it’s because they need their service hours. Although the fact that this is an incentive for people to go join Horizons, it is not the right incentive. People should be there because they want to, not because they need to fulfill some goal. It makes people very goal-oriented and detached from others – in a way it almost seems to set people up into a habit of using other people. Once something has fulfilled its purpose, it is cast away. This mindset may not be a healthy one. However, if it wasn’t for this need to attain a certain number of hours, the number of people doing Horizons would drastically drop. Attendance in clubs would probably also drop. Apathy and ennui is rampant in the school. The IB probably wanted good things to come from the CAS program, promoting commitment to certain hobbies and interests that could lead to something big in the future…but these good intentions may have gone astray, as people only see the CAS program as something that needs to be done to get the diploma, instead of something that helps you develop yourself as a human being (come on, we can all bullshit about how a certain experience has made us a better leader, communicator, person etc). Thus, because it is just another “task”, it can be forgotten about once finished. Is this really the kind of people we want in this world? Meanwhile, students are becoming adept at making excuses about why their homework is not done, or why their assignment was late, or why they aren’t going to class. They abuse and exploit the faults in the system, and not enough teachers enforce the rules for there to be any serious consequences, because that would earn the teacher the hatred of basically every student in the school (which, to us, isn’t a bad thing, because that means you have an awesome teacher and that the teacher is really “cool” because they don’t care for rules or deadlines). However, are we really supposed to like our teachers? Teachers are supposed to guide us, as students, to not only acquire the information required in their course, but to be a better person as well. However, many teachers are either unaware of these duties, or just shirk them. But yeah. Is it important to be a good person? And if you’re going to respond yes, are you just saying that because our principles and morals demand it, or do you really mean it? There’s also the possibility that you could be a good person, but still cheat the system…a robin hood situation comes to mind, but that’s only one of the branches of that thought.

Heck…don’t limit it to UCC alone. Does ANY school make us better people? Or does it just prepare us to become ruthless cutthroats in the adult world? Does the education system have a responsibility to make us better people? Or should that responsibility be left solely to the parents (which may or may not be the best idea, seeing as there are MANY different kinds of people out there)?


14 comments on “Boys will be…good people?”

  1. Let me give my first opinion. No school teaches anyone to be successful. What they teach is education, nothing to deal with life, or money, or overall happiness. I believe that through the horizons programs or through the service trips people learn how to be a good person, more through the service trips than through the horizions programs. I find that the horizons program is limited to how good your tutee is, the better they are, the more likely you won’t go to get hours. The service trips do the same thing except you’re at the place wherever you are for a longer period of time, and you can’t help but have fun while helping others. Now tell me how does UCC teach us how to be ruthless cutthroats in the world? Making us goal setters? Hell even if UCC doesn’t teach us how to be good people, it sure as hell doesn’t make us bad people.

  2. aw fack i forgot to say first post i win

  3. but how many people get to go on service trips? XD and how does it make them a better person? Like sure you help people…but there are probably people who are still there just to get the hours, cuz an international service trip looks really good on a resume haha but yeah you do have fun XD
    well it’s not how they teach us to be cutthroats, it’s more like what they DON’T teach us – people are BARELY honest at school when it comes to dodging deadlines, and is that something we really want to see in the future generation? a bunch of people that are constantly not getting anything done until crunch time hits. That would probably screw over our world (not that it already isn’t XDDD). hahahahah we’re getting into good vs evil, what is good what is evil, if it’s not good then is it evil? territory lmao.

  4. As humans we still need the overlying insentive to go and do something. Everything we do we have a reason to do. If making the hours were not nessecary why would anyone do it? Personally the only reason i went to horizons is because everyone else is doing it. No one thinks of going on a service trip to be like “oh noes i need hours!” unless its uber last minute. Did you notice on how all the presentatiosn, none of them stated how many hours you would be getting. People go on the service trips to have fun, whats wrong if thats the primary motive but in the end you get to help other people out? The idea of having CAS is to get people to get to go to these things, but in the end to get the students who are participating to help people and hopefully forget that they are doing this for hours. Hell i don’t join any club unless i know i will have fun. The only reason i go brawl in science club is because we’re not doing anything in science club, I would of switched to the investment club except that they no longer meet on thursdays. So gg. I repeat my belief that CAS is the proper insentive to get people to go help out, because with no insentive, no one would go. In the end the idea of CAS should be gone and just linger about for people to do the write up.

  5. …Alfred vs Justin, nice.

  6. BTW about the community service…
    They were having a debate on CBC or Newstalk or Globe or something newsy about the Canadian government’s requirement for forty hours…I know it’s not CAS, but it’s equivalent.
    They were saying how the hours requirement was turning us into child labourers.
    I want to say that’s ridiculous.
    Child labourers are being whipped while making Nike shoes. They are not sitting around helping with a fundraiser. There’s a difference between work and community service. So yes.
    About your thing with spirit, it’s not something that an outside source can do. It’s something that has to come from within you. If someone doesn’t seem to realise how lucky he or she is, that’s not the fault of anyone. Anyway, humans weren’t evolved to be empathetic. It goes against instincts that were set in us through million years of evolution. We’re supposed to get ahead by ourselves.
    That’s how we can tell the more developed societies from the ape ones: the higher the sense of community, the more removed from the natural. Duuh, look at Greek culture, look at Chinese culture, and then look at American culture. The American dream is all about working for yourself to get ahead.
    So yes, Justin is clearly ahead of society when he feels empathetic towards others.

  7. well there are some people who go on volunteer trips out of the goodness of their heart XD look at all the adult volunteers at say sunnybrook hospital – they’re not there for hours, they’re there just to help out…but usually people do need an incentive, and maybe that’s what they should be weaned off of? it’ll make the world a better place – helping people just for the sake of helping them. lol i think people DO go on service trips to get hours…because you DO get a substantial number of hours, and it doesn’t have to be last minute if you plan ahead XD well i guess i’m just going into “pure motives” so to speak, but i guess that just doesn’t happen any more. people don’t usually do things unless there’s something in it for them. which i think is sorta sad.

  8. and yeah calling the 40 hour requirement “child labour” is ridiculous. lol how difficult can it be to do 40 hours of community service? haha survival of the fittest? XDDD

  9. 40 hours of community service is a piece of cake. Whoever finds difficulty finding 40 hours of volunteering, will have a problem trying to find a job.

    Spirit is something inside of you…kind of like spirit energy in Bleach. Someone with a lot of spirit energy can affect people around them. For example, when Rukia, Hanatarocan’tspellname, and the other guy meet Byakuya, they all fall to their knees going “zomg…this guys spirit energy is sooo intenseeeeeeeeee”

    Our school motto, ignoring the women comment, basically says that the school is trying to prepare its students to make a difference in the world. Yes, so by making us sleep deprived, growing grey hairs, and balling our eyes out, they are preparing us to make a difference in the world. Interesting concept, maybe I’ll stick to being an idiot, and play the piano and have a job of a street sweeper. The government is my employer, I get $25 per hour, and I get to make the environment that much cleaner.

  10. What is the problem of going to help other less fortunate than you are? You almost always see the already well off doing some sort of philanthropy. But hell even these people do it so they can get tax cuts, but whats the difference if in the end they’re still make the world a better place? The idea of having an incentive to get somthing done is not a sad thing at all. It is there not only to maximize the number of people who would come and help others, but to get people to actually start helping others. What’s wrong with that? It is only natural to become more and more bonded to a certain thing over a period of time, thus making the incentive less and less of a reason to come. People’s main reason to vollunteer will no longer be because they need hours or because they’re getting tax cuts, but because they want to do it out of their own good will. Incentives are completly necessary to get somthing started, ask those adults at sunnybrook, “why did you start vollunteering here?” I bet you that it is because they wanted somthing for their resume, it was manditiory for a class, or they were bored and wanted to do somthing. In the end it doesn’t matter because they end up helping others, at hopefully, the incentive is no longer such a big deal to them. If they tell you otherwise they’re lying. No one here does anything without wanting something in return, don’t give me some bs that you started anything out of the good of your own heart. You begin with i need the hours, i must find somthing that’ll give me hours but somthing that i also like. and as each time you go, the more you’ll like it, and the less it’ll be about the hours or the university application to med school. So to repeat what i’ve repeated already many times in this single post, incentives are nessesary and are never a bad thing.

  11. no no i don’t have anything AGAINST incentives…just i think it’d be better if people could do things without incentive…it’s the kind of noble self sacrifice thing to a lesser degree. If we all need an incentive to do things, doesn’t that mean that as soon as there are no incentives, nobody will do anything? Doesn’t this lead to the apathy that is plaguing our school (and quite possibly, the world) at this moment? The fact is, if people didn’t need an incentive to do things, then an event like May Day might have actually succeeded, because people wouldn’t have needed a reason or incentive to be there – they would go just to support the school and their teams (which is an act of goodwill more than an incentive, since there is no real gain from doing this, other than your own possible enjoyment). So what I’m saying is that it’d be nice if people didn’t need an incentive because that way, events like May Day, Hockey Night, and A Day would all be so much more successful.

  12. And otou-san and alfred continue arguing with each other ^^

    AND SO..

  14. rofl A-day and hockey night are always succesful its crazy. IF YOU GO MAYBE YOU WOULD SEE THAT. May day was just poorly run, same day as may fair. Theres a greater incentive to go to may fair instead of may day, but i do agree that there needs to be a greater incentive to go to may day.

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